CNN analyst Sam Vinograd, the former senior advisor to White House national security Tom Donilon, joins Kurt and Rich for a conversation about her career in foreign policy and her views on U.S. policy in Asia. After witnessing 9/11 during her freshman orientation in college, Vinograd began years of study of the Middle East, eventually finding her way after graduate school to Baghdad, where she served as the U.S. Treasury Department’s deputy attaché. She shares insights and stories from her time working at both the Treasury Department and at the White House. Recorded before the G20 Summit, she, Kurt, and Rich discuss contemporary issues affecting Asia and around the world. The daughter of a Holocaust survivor, Vinograd also emphasizes the importance of supporting child refugees in such volatile moments.